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Old Apr 16, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02   #221
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do i have to buy mods for the axe

and how do i run there
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #222
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where do i get the recomended shield from?

how long does a run usually take (estimated time in minutes)?

how many ids can u farm in 1 run?

how much does this whole process cost altogether (about how many k)?


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Old Apr 17, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19   #223
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What can I do about rust >_>

I suppose this is a "bad" spawn?


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Old Apr 17, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06   #224
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lol hehehe maybe
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30   #225
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What can I do about rust >_>

I suppose this is a "bad" spawn?

thats a brutal spawn, but when theres no avicara's you should be able to take out 2 ice golems, rust is the only problem, but with the right equipment and skills the damage you probably will end up taking is 0-3 from ice spear
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17   #226
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I`ll field a few questions:

Gigamaster - as was stated, brutal spawn. I usually start over but read about pulling the Avicara and will try that next time I run.

teh uber haxorz - The shield comes from a collector in the Crystal Desert for 2 Bleached Shells. The actual run part takes about 3-5 minutes (these are all estimation as I`ve not actually timed it), once you get to the cave around 20 minutes depending on the spawn of trolls and sieges. Cost varies. I have the 1.5k armour that kvndoom has laid out which is 7.5k. If you need materials the cost goes up but I salvaged all my materials and Ettin farmed all my Runes for this armor. I actually had the helmet and knight boots so i was really only out the cost of 3 pieces of armor.

All I can say is read the entire thread. I use kvndooms set up (without the uber shield that I`m jealous of) and can make the run with no problems. I can kill the Ice Beast no problem. Only problem I have is getting the damn little Icy Imps to give up a sword! The tempted me the other day but it turned out to be a 14-20 Fiery Dragon Sword. I almost had an anurism when I finally stopped and realised. Lag gets me from time to time where it looks like I have a line between chickens only to be lag pulled back 5 feet and trapped, this happened about 3 times on the first bridge this week end.

The Great North - South debate.

To me it`s a no brainer, always go North. The reason being is once you clear the cave, go out and die and your right back at the bottom. Step in and out of the spawn and your ready to go again with a full cave. 15% dp come off easily, if you have to fight the sieges and imps before the bridged you`ll take off 5-7% right there. It took me a while to get it done with Thunderwing or whoever the boss is that slows you but IF you do exactly what kvndoom has said, Doylak-spam Healing, you can continue on and run out.

So in conclusion, IF you read the thread and follow kvndooms guide, it`s easy. What`s not easy is getting them to drop the damn swords. I HATE ICY IMPS! That`s why I`m going to keep killing them till I get one.....or three.

Siege Ice Golems - try to get to them as soon as possible. I`ve quit trying to pull them out of groups and wait till they are by themselves, then I put up ER and hit Charge to get in as close as possible before being slowed, after that hit Doylak and start hacking. If you use Sprint it kicks off ER and your dead.

Trolls - If you`ve read the thread, you have to make sure your NOT healing while the trolls are using Disruptive Chop. If you do and they do your dead.

Lastly, nothing I`ve stated here is new. Everything is in this thread.

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Old Apr 17, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03   #227
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maybe add glad def? *shrugs* I am still working on just running to the damn mineral springs . Hope I can get there and make some money before factions.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31   #228
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saw a w/mo rely solely on mending and healing breeze for healing, so he didnt have to worry about rust at all.

not trying to digress, just putting it out there
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 10:35 PM // 22:35   #229
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I just tried this the first time and i reached Mineral Springs without any problem. I just got owned by those ice imps xD. Don't have right skills and equipment i suppose.

I might mak a screen of how i run to Mineral cause it aint that hard. Just patience with 1 patrol and you'r rlly safe
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49   #230
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Hey guys, just offering some tips for those of you who have to fight 2 or 3 of the harder mobs at a time. What I do is, if I'm rusted, I never use healing signet. Just wait it out and as soon as rust goes away, quickly use healing signet. Secondly, if you have to fight a troll & a ice golem, take out the troll first and once again, don't use healing signet if you happen to get rust. The only thing you can do is wait it out. I've been able to take on everything inside the cave using the build, except instead of galrath slash, I carry desperate blow and bleed. I can take things out pretty quickly without much effort.

Lastly, it's possible to solo 5 azure shadows. I've done it and it takes a lot of effort to keep healing up and to keep dolyak signet up. You can take on 6, if you're lucky. I've done it 2 times to take on 6, it just happened that they all popped while walking slowly. The key to this build is to keep 2 things up and 2 things on your mind. Always have dolyak signet up and elemental resist up. The things on your mind should be: don't be scared if your health drops below 50%. Secondly, only use healing signet when both elemental resist and dolyak signet are up and never use healing signet when you are rusted or fighting a troll when he's about to use disruptive chop. Ok, so that's 4 things to remember Good luck.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59   #231
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From more running, I notice that I usually die at least once RIGHT before the zone to mineral springs due to slow/cripple/all that good stuff.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46   #232
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From more running, I notice that I usually die at least once RIGHT before the zone to mineral springs due to slow/cripple/all that good stuff.
I die there quit often also but as stated a 15% DP is really nothing. If you make it to the cave that`s gone quit quickly.
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Old Apr 18, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09   #233
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Yep, i figured that out after I completed 2 runs both with 45% DP.

Rust still gets to me >_>
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Old Apr 18, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25   #234
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Just like he said - be patient with rust... wait for it to drop off and then heal. Normally with two Siege Golems they almost have a continous Rust going but in the few seconds they don't I can heal and then kill them.

I always go North on my runs. Occasionally I will run into Thunderbum and I've figured out I can sprint past him when they bunch on the bridge and 3/4 of the time he won't get me with his spell. If he does - dolyak and heal spam are your best friend.
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Old Apr 18, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12   #235
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Usually when I die to rust is because the whole cave is on me =)

Anyway, the ONLY problem I have right now is the cave entrance spawn.

ESPECIALLY avicaras.

Try to drag em = they kill me, THEN run back

Try to kill them = I get raped, the imps behind them DON'T help

Edit, more unsuccessful runs...

Possible dying spots [south route]:

Patrol Spot - impatience...:P

Right before Mineral Springs - bad spawn of a crap load of Stone Sumits, cripple + rape

Tundra Giants - usually when 3-4 are together, massive stomp/damage

Avicara Boss - Iron Mist/Arrow Rape

Cave Entrance - bad bad spawns, trolls, rusts, multiple avicaras

Spots I die often are the entrance and avicara boss. Sometimes giants, rarely patrol/before mineral springs.

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Old Apr 19, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30   #236
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Is it worth even doing IDS Runs any more? DIdn't they nerf the drop rate?
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Old Apr 19, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13   #237
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i still can't figure out where the collector for the shield is...
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Old Apr 19, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23   #238
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i still can't figure out where the collector for the shield is...
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Lord_Dorn_Lendrigen

Look quickly before Wiki goes down again.
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Old Apr 19, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03   #239
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Is it worth even doing IDS Runs any more? DIdn't they nerf the drop rate?
I'm getting to believe it is not worth it at all. 16 runs (clearing the cave) 1 sword.
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Old Apr 19, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14   #240
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Get the shield thats outside camp rankor now, its better if you're hexed. +60/-3
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